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Archive for May 2006

I Highly Recommend Fishing

Like Steve O’Grady, fishing for me has never been about just catching fish. In fact, if we do manage to catch fish, that’s just the icing on the cake. Enjoying the scenery and some good times are the primary motivations. And although the scenery where we were cannot compare with what Steve enjoys in Colorado, it’s not too shabby either.

For the last ten years I’ve been doing an annual trip with John Duimovich and Jon Eschinger. The last two years have been to Nemio, a fantastic walleye and pike spot on the Gouin Reservoir in Northern Quebec. It’s about a seven hour drive from Ottawa, with at least 4 1/2 hours of that on gravel roads. I highly recommend Nemio Outfitters as one of the most hospitable and best run fishing camps we’ve been to.

This year the fishing was medium. There were tons of fish showing on the finder, but for the first couple of days they were just not biting. It happens. Fortunately, the last day we were there the walleye were on and I was able to bring back a couple of nice fillets for the kids to enjoy.

One of the nicest things about a trip like this is that you can completely unwind in a short vacation. The bad news is returning to the office to the accumulated emails. Nothing tells you vacation is over quite like watching 1300 emails arrive 😦

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Written by Mike Milinkovich

May 29, 2006 at 10:16 pm

Posted in Foundation

Hell Froze Over?

So we had a very interesting milestone at Eclipse yesterday. Our first ever committer from Sun committed code to CVS. Suresh Raju contributed code to get Eclipse working on Solaris x86. Welcome Suresh!

We were first introduced to the Solaris x86 team by Simon Phipps, who runs open source strategy over at Sun.

When you think of it, this just makes really good sense. The Solaris x86 team is working to enable one of the most popular development tools for its platform. As they should.

I am very happy to see that sound business decisions are replacing rhetoric in the relationship between Sun and Eclipse. This is a small step forward, but it is a very tangible and pragmatic one.

For those who enjoy the never-ending Swing vs. SWT debate, the amusing thing is that the component the Suresh has commit rights to is org.eclipse.swt.gtk.solaris.x86. The title of this post says the rest 😉

Written by Mike Milinkovich

May 18, 2006 at 9:24 am

Posted in Foundation

Swing over to Google…

…and check out the new Google Web Toolkit.

Not only does it have some really cool AJAX-enabling technology, it ships both JDT and SWT. The embedded GWT browser is built with SWT for use during development.

From an email from Bret Taylor, the PM on the project:

GWT has two components: a Java-to-JavaScript compiler, a command line tool that translates Java to JavaScript; and a “hosted web browser,” a special web browser used to debug GWT applications … The hosted web browser uses SWT since it has a UI. It is a very simple UI (a window, toolbar, and embedded browser control, basically).

Written by Mike Milinkovich

May 17, 2006 at 11:52 am

Posted in Foundation

Conference Frenzy

So last week was two conferences:

  1. JAX/Eclipse Forum Europe in Wiesbaden, Germany. (A beautiful city, by the way.)
  2. LinuxDays.ch in Geneva, Switzerland.


While at JAX, the editor of JavaMagazin, Alexander Neumann presented Eclipse with their Reader’s Choice Award for Best Open Source Project. Congratulations to the entire Eclipse team!

This week I’m off to JavaOne, where Bjorn and I are giving a talk on the Callisto Simultaneous Release. If you’re there, please say hi, and don’t forget to join the party at the Thirsty Bear.

Written by Mike Milinkovich

May 14, 2006 at 2:29 pm

Posted in Foundation

No Enemies There

I, like many others, have enjoyed reading Ed Burnette‘s recent series on Sun joining Eclipse.

Personally, I think it would be great to have Sun join Eclipse. It is obviously one of the questions I’ve been asked a lot since starting at Eclipse, and my answer has been the same since the beginning: Sun would be welcomed with open arms. Eclipse is an open community, and everyone can join. And Ed is definitely correct in pointing out all the wonderful stuff that NetBeans could offer if the communities were working together.

There was one paragraph in Ed’s latest post that I did think was off the mark, however.

History is replete with examples of “mortal enemies” becoming fast friends. And in a world with Microsoft, Ruby, PHP, Linux, Web2.0, and other forces knocking on the door, these two need all the friends they can get.

First, Eclipse is absolutely not in competition with Ruby, PHP, Linux, et al. They are just additional languages and platforms for Eclipse to work with. RadRails is a great example of a cool tool built with Eclipse that embraces Ruby, rather than tries to compete with it. The Eclipse Linux initiative is another great opportunity for co-operation, rather than competition. And, of course, there are great things happening with PHP and Eclipse. In fact, I would go so far to say that Eclipse’s willingness to embrace all of these different platforms is one of the key strengths of our community. Sun has a vested interest in promoting Java against Ruby, PHP, etc., but Eclipse clearly does not.

Secondly, even in quotes, I don’t like to chararcterize competitors as “mortal enemies”. Sun and NetBeans are following a path which they believe is a sound business strategy. I personally think that co-operation would be better than competition, but hey, it takes two to tango. But I’ve met quite a few of the NetBeans folks, and they seem like perfectly nice guys doing their job. A little friendly competition never hurt anyone.

P.S. We’re not changing the name.

Written by Mike Milinkovich

May 7, 2006 at 7:28 pm

Posted in Foundation